How did it all get started?

Back in August 2017, Patrick approached Dewey about starting a podcast. "You and me riffing on various subjects or maybe just one topic or field. I don't know. It's just an idea and wanted to get your thoughts."

A couple of months later they met up and brainstormed some ideas, recorded an initial episode (originally called "Podcast & Crew"), shared it with a few friends, and finally landed on the main thrust of an entertainment podcast. Sharing stories of what hold us back in the performing arts but also what keeps us going. 

On December 28, Why I'll Never Make It was born and gave birth to its first season: 13 regular episodes with Patrick and Dewey co-hosting, and 5 Tony Awards bonus episodes featuring Patrick and other Broadway performers and creatives. In Season Two, Patrick became the sole host of the show and introduced The Spotlight Series, featuring those making a difference in the arts and beyond.

Why such a negative title for your podcast?

This question is asked a lot. And to be honest, it's not negative at all, but merely the reality of this business. Most plays, musical, books, TV shows, and films never become blockbusters or household names. Most auditions never lead to being cast. Most Broadway shows never recoup their initial investment. Failure, or rather the lack of success, is a given. Rejection is common. And making it big rarely happens. Most of us get by from job to job, making a living and enjoying the modicum of success that we hope will come our way.

But within this reality comes great lessons and inspirations and some funny stories along the way. On the podcast, every reason of "why I'll never make it" is followed up by "why I'm still here" and what keeps us going. As Bill Gates said...

It's fine to celebrate success but it is more important to heed the lessons of failure.

But you talk to people that are famous and have made it.

True. People like *NSYNC's Joey Fatone and FROZEN's Jelani Alladin have been guests on the podcast. We gotta have some inspiration, right? Something to shoot for? Besides, my little podcast is greatly helped by these famous friends coming on the show.

But most guests are simply creatives who get the work done, grinding out a living doing what they love. And mostly out of the limelight. Whatever applause may come from our work pales in comparison to the days and weeks and months of rejection and persistence that proceed any such recognition. It is this central message that is talked about on our show, even with the most successful or recognizable guests.

What does The Spotlight Series have to do with failure, though?

The life of any non-profit is not an easy one. So while these bonus episodes are a slight departure from the format of the show, Spotlight focuses on why people and organizations do the work they do, how they handle setbacks, and what difference they are making it people's lives.


PATRICK OLIVER JONES

Host / Writer / Producer

Patrick grew up the only child of a single mother, only to discover in his 20s that he actually had a half-sister. These twists of fate have continued to follow him as he's moved from Disney World in Orlando to Jubilee! in Las Vegas, from cruise ships to national tours ... and biggest of all, getting married in September 2018! Now he lives in Manhattan, doing commercials and performing in staged readings here and there, but Patrick tends to leave the city more often than not for work in regional theaters across the country. So until he can put those suitcases away for good and enjoy that long-awaited Broadway contract, he's got this podcast to help him dream big while living small.  


DEWEY CADDELL, Co-Host (Season 1)

One of eight children from the middle of nowhere in Missouri, Dewey found a wooden plate at 3 years old with a relief of the Manhattan skyline carved into it and pointed at the Empire State Building to select his future apartment. While he eventually did make it to New York City, that apartment in the sky still eludes him. Instead Dewey has carved out a living in Queens as a singer, actor, dancer, writer, scholar, chef and very minor-league softball player -- the most rare octuple threat. So even though he stays busy and can't be a part of every show, Dewey brought his own brand of magic and softballing skill to the podcast.